Living Off Rentals
We believe that a high quality rental property is the best investment a person can make. This podcast equips listeners to build a rental portfolio of their own. Each week host, Kirby Atwell, interviews someone who is living off rentals and identifies best practices, advice, and potential investing pitfalls to avoid!
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#303 - From 9th Grade Dropout to Early Retirement with 150 Real Estate Units - Matt Hawkins
<p >What does it take to go from dropping out of school in ninth grade to owning more than 150 rental units and retiring in your 40s?</p> <p >Matt Hawkins, also known as the Lumberjack Landlord, is a self-taught investor who now manages over 50 buildings and 400 tenants with just one employee — all from his phone. He joins us on this episode of Living Off Rentals to unpack his incredible journey from humble beginnings to financial freedom.</p> <p >Listen as he shares how early mistakes, creative deal-making (like buying a city-owned police station), and consistent systems helped him build a re...
#302 - Leveraging the 30-Year Fixed Loan to Create Generational Wealth Through Rentals - Adiel Gorel
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who has spent more than four decades helping people build wealth through simple, long-term rental investing.</p> <p >Adiel Gorel is an investor, educator, and the author of Remote Control Retirement Riches. He has helped thousands of people buy brand-new rental homes in strong U.S. markets, using the 30-year fixed loan as the foundation for building lasting wealth.</p> <p >Listen as he shares how he went from an engineer in 1980s Silicon Valley to a global real estate investor, why he believes that the 30-year fixed...
#301 - Sam Wegert - How Co-Living Creates Affordable Housing and Big Profits
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who turned a simple idea—renting out spare rooms—into a thriving real estate empire.</p> <p >Sam Wegert is the founder of Scale Your Co-Living Real Estate and leads the largest co-living mastermind in the world. He and his wife reached financial freedom by their early 20s and have since built a 2,500-door portfolio that blends strong cash flow with affordable housing.</p> <p >Listen as he shares how he went from running a martial arts school at 16 to discovering the co-living model by accident, why shared hous...
#300 - Top 10 Real Estate Investing Lessons After 300 Episodes - Kirby Atwell
<p >Joining us on this milestone 300th episode of Living Off Rentals is... me!</p> <p >I can hardly believe it's been five years and 300 episodes since launching this show back in January 2020. What started as a way to document my own journey—transitioning from Army officer to full-time real estate investor—has turned into something much bigger.</p> <p >In this episode, I look back on what's changed since those early days of flipping houses, what I've learned from hundreds of conversations with other investors, and the lessons that have shaped how I live and invest today.</p> <p >Enjo...
#299 - From Firefighter, to Flipping Boston, to Real Estate Empire - Dave Seymour
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who knows what it takes to rebuild from the ground up.</p> <p >Dave Seymour is a former firefighter, star of the hit TV show "Flipping Boston," and now a respected multifamily investor and educator. </p> <p >After working 120 hours a week and nearly losing everything, a chance radio ad about real estate became the turning point that changed his life.</p> <p >Listen as he shares how he went from the firehouse to financial freedom, the lessons that shaped his approach to business and leadership, and why f...
#298 - How to Structure Creative Real Estate Deals - Ronnie Walker
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who has built multiple successful real estate businesses and learned firsthand what it takes to recover after things go sideways.</p> <p >Ronnie Walker is a real estate investor and founder of Cedar Rock Homes. He shares his journey from working as a private banker at JPMorgan to leaving his 9-to-5 and diving headfirst into wholesaling, subject-to deals, and creative financing —scaling quickly but learning hard lessons along the way.</p> <p >Listen as he shares the realities of rapid growth, the financial missteps that nearly derailed his bu...
#297 - How to Shred Years Off Your Mortgage and Avoid Costly Interest - Adam Carroll
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who's helped countless people escape the trap of long-term loans that can end up costing nearly twice the original amount.</p> <p >Adam Carroll is a financial educator, speaker, and founder of The Shred Method. Through this approach, he's helped families and real estate investors accelerate their mortgage payoff timelines through smart money management and the strategic use of lines of credit.</p> <p >Listen as he breaks down a simple but powerful strategy that turns traditional banking upside down and helps homeowners and investors eliminate debt, build...
#296 - Understanding Bonus Depreciation and the STR Loophole for Tax Savings - Ryan Carriere
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who helps investors keep more of what they earn by using powerful, legal tax strategies.</p> <p >Ryan Carriere is a Client Services Manager at Hall CPA, a firm that specializes in helping high-income earners maximize tax savings through real estate. As both a CPA and real estate investor, Ryan has worked with hundreds of clients to save millions by leveraging strategies like bonus depreciation and the short-term rental (STR) loophole.</p> <p >Listen as he shares how to make the most of these tax advantages, what a...
#295 - How 20 Minutes a Day Led to 8 Rentals and a $13M Care Facility - Aaron Ameen
<p >What if you could build a rental portfolio and launch a multimillion-dollar business in just 20 minutes a day?</p> <p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who built eight cash-flowing rentals across three states while working full-time and raising three young children. Now, alongside his wife Andrea, he's developing Everwood Reserve — a $13M, 32-bed luxury assisted living and memory care facility in Texas.</p> <p >Aaron Ameen is a real estate investor, business strategist, and host of the Hybrid Real Estate Professional Podcast. Listen as he proves that you don't need endless hours or ma...
#294 - Turning a Cabin Property Into a Profitable, Purpose-Driven STR Brand - Eric Moeller
<p >Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who is redefining what it means to travel, disconnect, and create meaningful experiences through short-term rentals.</p> <p >Eric Moeller is the co-founder of Freewyld, a design-forward short-term rental brand that helps guests truly unplug through nature. From flipping his first house at 19, to navigating the 2008 crash, to building a business that blends hospitality with intention, Eric's story is one of resilience, clarity, and bold decisions.</p> <p >In this episode, we talk about the tough lessons he learned early in real estate, why he went all-in on...
